Peugeot 407 diesel good car or not?

Discussion in 'Car Chat' started by chrisycupra, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. chrisycupra RMS Regular

    chrisycupra
    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Location:
    Ballymoney
    Drives:
    Nothing :/
    Starting to consider searching for an 05/06 Peugeot 407, would be hopefully driving it a while so would want to get some nice wheels on and some coilovers.

    Does anyone have a 407 in diesel and could tell me what kind of car they are, what problems to expect, etc?

    Also I've never actually seen one lowered or in any other form than standard, has anyone else?

    All help appreciated, thanks.
     
  2. Pumesta RMS Regular

    Pumesta
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2003
    Drives:
    Focus CC-3
    407_HDI on here had one. It was never out of the garage, everything that could go wrong went wrong. Even the fault computer went faulty, and no I am not taking the pee. He has a Mondeo now
     
  3. Richy RMS Regular

    Richy
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2003
    Location:
    Derrytrasna
    Drives:
    Vectra 1.9CDTi
    Turbo, Clutch, Dual Mass, Electrics, PAS Pump and associated ECU, Balljoints go wrecking the steering knuckles in some cases - dealer only £££'s, ABS Sensors, Bearings...

    Buy one, if you're a glutten for punishment!!


    EDIT: How could I forget the Diesel Particulate filter, fuel injectors and high pressure pumps....

    All of the above are in stock at all times where possible at our place, just to give you an idea of the regularity of 407 breakdowns.
     
  4. Gaz VW RMS Regular

    Gaz VW
    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2004
    Location:
    Belfast
    Drives:
    MR2 Turbo/Saaaab
    I drove one for a while over the summer too, horrible, horrible thing to drive.
     
  5. AndyMc RMS Regular

    AndyMc
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Location:
    Belfast
    Drives:
    V70r
    I bought one a couple of weeks ago, what the guys say is true though there is quite a lot of pubicised problems but most you can put right yourself. They also have an issue with the heater control flaps stripping gears and you lose the ability to control temperature/direction of air. I have this problem, but am hopefully in the process of fixing it.
    If you check some of the forums you'll get an idea of the problems they encounter, but be aware the forums only show the bad points, I moved from a 406 to a 407 and the handling is a huge improvement, the comfort levels are great and the MPG isn't too bad, I've managed 40mpg this week on mostly short runs.
    As for the additive and particle filter you can just get it remapped and de-fapped if you want. The particle filter can also be taken off and powerhosed to clean all the **** out of it.
     
  6. Revogti RMS Regular

    Revogti
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2008
    Drives:
    ????
    Nice cars, shame really although my mate has a 115k 307 hdi and it's gave no bother over the last 2 years and my mechanic said they are the worst car ever made lol

    I'd go for a Volvo S40 personally.
     
  7. coops! RMS Regular

    coops!
    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2007
    Location:
    Co.Down
    Avoid would be my advice, not a fan of any diesel never mind a Peugeot diesel.
    just my opinion tho.

    but I think you can see a trend here of people experiencing all kinds of bother with them, kinda explains itself
     
  8. 306HDi RMS Regular

    306HDi
    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Location:
    londonderry
    Drives:
    Leon TDi/Mini
    give over folks, we have 1 at home, 165k on it and never gives bother, just wear an tear items had to be replaced, still on original turbo etc, had a 406 hdi before with 350k on it, sold it 2 years ago and its taxi'n to this day. so go ahead and buy 1, u will hav no regrets. i had a new mondeo that gave me more trouble, had 18k on it and then i sold it an bought the 407, 10 times the car of a mondeo
     
    John Oleary likes this.
  9. 407_hdi RMS Regular

    407_hdi
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2008
    Location:
    Newtownards
    Drives:
    Honda Accord
    Pumesta speaks the truth, and all the things that Richy mentioned and more went wrong with mine. By the time I'd had the car a year it had spent more than six week in the garage. My Mondeo has been in for a total of six hours, that was for two services.
    I didn't just have a bad one either, we had a fleet in work and they were all dreadful
     
  10. AndyMc RMS Regular

    AndyMc
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Location:
    Belfast
    Drives:
    V70r
    407 was yours a 1.6 or a 2.0? I have heard the 1.6 was prone to more issues than the 2.0. Don't know how true that is though?
     
  11. Mark_C RMS Regular

    Mark_C
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2006
    Get a Volvo s60 D5

    You're not going to get anything for the money even approaching the same level of comfort.

    An 05 one will remap to 220+ hp as well. And they sound good for a diesel.
     
  12. Pumesta RMS Regular

    Pumesta
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2003
    Drives:
    Focus CC-3
    It was a 1.6, although strangely the Fiesta uses the same engine and I never hear of many problems with them
     
  13. _ZS_ New Member

    _ZS_
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Location:
    Here, unfortunately
    Drives:
    Mondeo, i30, MF1
    The 1.6 is a far better engine than the 2.0, though depends on the spec. The 90hp 1.6 is dead in a Focus, but the 110hp goes quite well - not much difference in a Focus to the 136hp 2.0. Lighter engine make them handle a bit better.

    Wouldn't fancy the 1.6 in anything bigger than a Focus.

    Workmate has the 1.6HDI in a C5 estate, uses it to tow a caravan, think he gets less than 25mpg when he's towing, boot down all the time to get anywhere. He says it's worse than the 1.9 Picasso he had before.
     
  14. Richy RMS Regular

    Richy
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2003
    Location:
    Derrytrasna
    Drives:
    Vectra 1.9CDTi
    1.6HDI gives the problems when its not serviced with the correct oil, well that's one reason and in my opinion, the main reason. The low saps C3 oil is quite expensive, but it has to be used. Some people try to save a few ££ and end up in a world of french bag.

    Wrong oil causes problems with the DPF and Oil supply to the turbo (which is pretty **** to begin with)
     
  15. 407_hdi RMS Regular

    407_hdi
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2008
    Location:
    Newtownards
    Drives:
    Honda Accord
    1.6 110bhp. Strangely enough the engine was ok other than the turbo popping. It was everything attached to and around the engine that shat itself on mine!
     
  16. Alexander New Member

    Alexander
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2013
    Drives:
    Peugeot 407 1.6
    Hi, I was wondering does anyone know where the ESP sensor ECU control module is found in a Peugeot 407 1.6 HDi, as I am wanting to fit it in ?

    Thanks.
     
  17. Colin RMS Regular

    Colin
    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2002
    Location:
    Antrim
    Drives:
    MG Rover scrap!
    Get a 406 2.2 hdi exec.

    They start off with 136 HP, but with the removal of the diesel particulate filter (DPF, also known as the FAP), and the installation of an ECU remap, you will get 180 HP out of it, plus an extra wad of torque for good measure.

    Dont need much to look nice!

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Pumesta RMS Regular

    Pumesta
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2003
    Drives:
    Focus CC-3
    I would say the OP has probably sold what ever they got by now
     
    tbdevpaul likes this.
  19. Colin RMS Regular

    Colin
    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2002
    Location:
    Antrim
    Drives:
    MG Rover scrap!
    Jesus wept, dont bring threads back from the dead...... rage :(
     
  20. John Oleary RMS Member

    John Oleary
    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2013
    Drives:
    Peugeot 407
    I`ve been an owner of 3 Peugeots,405,406 and 407.I`m a taxi driver and used these cars to earn my dosh.I now own the 407 and although build quality and electrics aren`t brilliant this car is incredibly reliable.It`s a beautifully smooth and potent 2.0 hdi diesel.Currently as I write it`s done 150,000 miles,100.000 of them taxi miles and only needed a new clutch! And the other cars were equally robust.My 407 is a much much more reliable than a 6.5 k Mondeo I once owned which at 130 k miles broke down 3 times and was nearly always in the garage!
     
  21. Iain Traynor RMS Regular

    Iain Traynor
    Joined:
    May 11, 2012
    Location:
    Lisburn
    Drives:
    quite often
    I had an early model 407 1.6 hdi sw as a company motor. Gave no trouble at all in the 110k that I drove it. A couple of recalls and that was it as far as I can remember.
     
  22. Con RMS Regular

    Con
    Joined:
    May 11, 2003
    Location:
    Northern Ireland Again
    Drives:
    JDM Honda Del So
    We have a 407 2.0 HDi wagon 150k on it not a bad car for the £££
     
  23. John Oleary RMS Member

    John Oleary
    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2013
    Drives:
    Peugeot 407
    I`ve been an owner of 3 Peugeots,405,406 and 407.I`m a taxi driver and used these cars to earn my dosh.I now own the 407 and although build quality and electrics aren`t brilliant this car is incredibly reliable.It`s a beautifully smooth and potent 2.0 hdi diesel.Currently as I write it`s done 150,000 miles,100.000 of them taxi miles and only needed a new clutch! And the other cars were equally robust.My 407 is a much much more reliable than a 6.5 k Mondeo I once owned which at 130 k miles broke down 3 times and was nearly always in the garage!
    Plot thickens.Well it`s just plain stupidity to put the wrong oil in the engine instead of putting the right oil in a decent reliable car.You can`t cry over things going wrong then can you.I `ve had no serious problems with 3 Peugeots I`ve owned, doing up to a 1000 miles a week they`ve all been outstandingly reliable.
     
    306HDi likes this.

Share This Page