Rallying Classic Classes 2016
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Yeah, as far as I know. I think it's only the 3 door group A sierra, not the 4x4 Sapphire. Although I'm pretty sure proper FIA historic rallying rules mean your car must be built in line with original regs. That is, proper historic spec Escorts run 2 litre twin cams, restricted width/cross section tyres and so on. The class 14 modified Escorts that have coilovers, massive brakes, paddle shift, traction control, 350 bhp Millington Diamonds aren't strictly historic.
@RCT might know a wee bit more detail.
@RCT might know a wee bit more detail.
RallyCiaran
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The new MSA Historic Class 4 is from 1981-1985. That is the current class, I'm not sure if they move forward a year every year.
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New FIA regs go to 1990 
http://www.irishtarmac.com/news/201...rally-championship-from-1st-january-2015.aspx
http://www.irishtarmac.com/news/201...rally-championship-from-1st-january-2015.aspx
RallyCiaran
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A car with FIA papers is going to be mega money, but at least you get to use proper tyres rather than 70 profiles.
davecoupe
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I might be wrong but Sierras and E30's can run in class 14 as it is along with the modified escorts and darrians etc and 4wd sierras can run in the same class as 6r4's etc.
I wouldn't see the appeal of running them as historics as opposed to running as a modified. A Homologated car would probably cost the same as a lower range modified car and would be restricted to Homologated engines, brakes and suspension as well as cross ply tyres which makes them pretty slow, softly sprung and gutless.
I wouldn't see the appeal of running them as historics as opposed to running as a modified. A Homologated car would probably cost the same as a lower range modified car and would be restricted to Homologated engines, brakes and suspension as well as cross ply tyres which makes them pretty slow, softly sprung and gutless.
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Think a Cossie would run in class 13 and an M3 would run in class 14. 4x4 Group A/WRC cars out of homologation run in 16 or 20.
Historics have to run whatever the specs were at that point in time. Direct lift from FIA regs here:
"...that preserve the specifications of their period and prevent the modifications of performance and behaviour which could arise through the application of modern technology."
So a historic Cossie would run to Group A specification. Which would mean 300 bhp and whatever brakes, tyres, rims and suspension was homologated at that point in time.
Class 14 is as much as money pit as running a WRC car and a total arms race. Millington, flappy paddle 'box, traction control, Proflex suspension, etc, etc
Historics have to run whatever the specs were at that point in time. Direct lift from FIA regs here:
"...that preserve the specifications of their period and prevent the modifications of performance and behaviour which could arise through the application of modern technology."
So a historic Cossie would run to Group A specification. Which would mean 300 bhp and whatever brakes, tyres, rims and suspension was homologated at that point in time.
Class 14 is as much as money pit as running a WRC car and a total arms race. Millington, flappy paddle 'box, traction control, Proflex suspension, etc, etc
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I've been talking to a friend who's going to look at a Sierra in the near future as a replacement for his mk1 escort. It sounds like it could be a group a car. He was saying there's quite a buzz about these cars coming back and a few people are already starting to build 3 doors for next year.
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