F1 2015: All Chat Here

[svensktoppen]

What better way of starting the year (and getting the first post in ) - Button finally doing the honourable thing and tying the knot:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30647574

 

[da.murf]

Seen this myself. Lucky guy!

 

[Deckz]

Reading online yesterday. Jules Bianchi still unconscious.

 

[weeloaney]

Nice wedding car

 

[svensktoppen]

Awesome, perfect car. And wife not too shabby either

 

[weeloaney]

Awesome, perfect car. And wife not to shabby either [emoji14]

Just as long as she brings her job home with her.

 

[DC.]

I see Mercedes will go for Alonso or Bottas if Hamilton doesn't want to stay on after this year.

 

[Marc.W]

4 weeks till the first test!

 

[Delboy23]

http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117259/fia-allows-2015-f1-engine-upgrades

Teams allowed In season engine upgrades this year except for the McLaren-Honda.

 

[svensktoppen]

Why not the Honda?

 

[svensktoppen]

Just read the rest there... If what is written there is correct (the veracity of Autosport is not always the best, cough...), then it looks like a complete and utter shambles... Unless it is some sort of joke of course

 

[Blackie]

Because Honda is technically a new manufacturer to F1

 

[Delboy23]

Why not the Honda?

Because Honda is technically a new manufacturer to F1

This

 

[svensktoppen]

So what? Why different rules for one team than the rest? If the others are allowed to slot in 2015 upgrades over time, instead of at the start of the season, because they think they will not be able to get all of them done in time for February, then why on earth should Honda only be allowed whatever they can fit in by February? That article makes exactly zero sense, lol

But hey, F1 + politics = logic goes out the window.

 

[Delboy23]

I know. This is why F1 is just a shambles now, pure dung these new power units. Should've stuck to what they knew with the V10/8's.

 

[Wild Thing]

if that was the case why would honda even want to get mixed up in this spectacular dung heap of a circus?

 

[svensktoppen]

Well, not like Autosport have never been wide off the mark before, maybe we should reserve judgement

 

[Delboy23]

if that was the case why would honda even want to get mixed up in this spectacular dung heap of a circus?

Was only brought to the FIA attention just before Christmas and so they reckon it's only fair honda 'submit' there finished powerunit at the end of February just like merc etc done last year.

 

[svensktoppen]

Honda will be submitting a power unit to the 2015 spec, same as everyone else. Makes no difference what anyone did last year.

If that article is correct (big if!), it seems like Ferrari/Renault have found a "loophole", allowing them to space out some of the 2015 upgrades ("tokens") throughout the year, because they think they will not be able to implement them all by February. So they would rather not seal the engine spec by February.

Obviously, if they are allowed to do that, and Honda is not, then Honda would be at a massive disadvantage. As they would have to seal their engine spec in February, regardless if they have been able to implement all allowed 2015 upgrades ("tokens") or not. While the others would be able to add in further engine upgrades ("tokens") later on in the season.

Shambles would be the best word for it...

Again, of course, assuming that massive big "if" above...

 

[Delboy23]

Going by the test in abu dhabi, honda haven't got everything in order just yet. Though be good to see the powerunit when it's running at full song. Wether it's close to the merc engine is another thing!

 

[stevyg]

Had a laugh at Bernies Traditional Christmas cards http://www.formula1.com/gallery/other/2014/886.html

 

[svensktoppen]

Apparently Honda are "annoyed" that everyone else will be allowed to upgrade their engines throughout the year, but Honda will be banned from doing the same.

Fancy that, lol

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30720290

What a complete shambles

 

[stevyg]

I think its unfair to Honda. They should be allowed to change their engine like everyone else. Not being in F1 last year already puts them at a disadvantage, not an advantage like the FIA is making out imo.

 

[davecoupe]

Looks like the rules will be changed to allow them to develop their engine:

Only fair IMO

The sport's 2015 engine suppliers already got together this week in Geneva, to discuss Bernie Ecclestone's desire for a different engine formula for 2016.
According to Italy's Autosprint, however, Honda also raised the 'unfreeze' issue at the meeting.

Correspondent Roberto Chinchero revealed: "Honda has been heard.

"At the meeting in Geneva ... the FIA decided to reconsider its position with regards to Honda.

"Taking note of their (Honda's) concerns, the question remains open and will probably be defined at a later meeting between the manufacturers that has been set in two weeks time."

Chinchero continued: "There are also rumours of a 'plan B' for the Japanese.

"If the FIA keeps its current position, McLaren could protest against each technical update that is brought to the track by the other manufacturers, invoking the technical regulation prohibiting multiple homologations of the power unit," he added.

 

[C4L]

I'd be surprised if they didn't make allowance for Honda... the second Honda make a demand (and it is pretty unfair lets face it) they are going to meet it, especially one as reasonable as this.. they want a another big manufacturer/money back in after all