New Pressure Washer needed
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I’d never buy Karcher again, Using a Nilfisk e160 atm and it’s great but Kranzle seems to be step above
So after 4.5 years my Karcher K4 has lost full power, would be happy enough with the same again does anyone know the best place to buy these days?
Got mine from screwfix but they have risen £50
Budget?
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Karcher K 7 Compact +1 Year Extra Warranty | Karcher Center Trafalgar
Bought this few weeks ago. So much better than my k4! Plus got to reuse all my accessories!
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The AVA washers use all the karcher fittings, are more powerful, cheaper and have up to. 20 year warranty.
I have P80 (kranzle rival) p60 evolution (k7 / k5 beater) and the really handy p40 coming back next week.
that reminds me @svensktoppen i have a self priming hose arriving for you too
look them up
www.avaofnorway.com
I have P80 (kranzle rival) p60 evolution (k7 / k5 beater) and the really handy p40 coming back next week.
that reminds me @svensktoppen i have a self priming hose arriving for you too
look them up
www.avaofnorway.com
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Direct from Karcher?Karcher K 7 Compact +1 Year Extra Warranty | Karcher Center Trafalgar
www.karcher-center-trafalgar.co.uk
Bought this few weeks ago. So much better than my k4! Plus got to reuse all my accessories!
Much is the P80 then?
Do you sell these
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Yes, direct from Karcher Trafalgar Center.
Oddly Karcher center in Belfast was more expensive!
It also comes with a 10m anti kink hose unlike the k4!
So after 4.5 years my Karcher K4 has lost full power, would be happy enough with the same again does anyone know the best place to buy these days?
Got mine from screwfix but they have risen £50
Not check if it’s a big job to fix?
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Could have if I didn’t sink my boot in it tonight
Been losing pressure gradually for a while now, checked for blockages etc but nothing
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I got an Ava P40 for use when in Cambridge. Only have a small place for camping out over there, the P40 is easy to tuck away. Even run from a 25l drum (no access to external water supply) using a self priming hose it works brilliantly. Easily handles all general car cleaning duties.
If that's how good the wee one is, then the bigger ones must be brilliant if you have the space and need the extra power.
If that's how good the wee one is, then the bigger ones must be brilliant if you have the space and need the extra power.
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Nb. Assuming that is a p80 you have pictured.
£149 more for?
Less pressure.
Same 2800w motor.
50l max per hr more.
The foam cannon which looks cheap. (Likely change to your preferred cannon of choice)
A hose reel (which is pointless if like most you will change for a 15-20m hose)
Oh and a 20 year warranty that is subject to paying for a service minimum every 5 years lol.
Ps how much is a 5 year service?
Where can service an AVA in Ni?
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Awesome! Found a cheapo one at the local garden centre, had a go the other day. Works brilliantly! Just need to take care when getting it all primed, then it all just works. Did the whole car - Citra prewash/Cleanse wheels, then schampoo, and then Ultrabrite. Hose after each stage. Two 25l fills of water. Wasn't very dirty but it really works, and the P40 does a really good job.
Three fills of 25l would do a dirtier car I reckon.
Still looking for a "proper" Ava hose if you have one! The cheapo one is a bit, well, cheap
It works, but not sure for how long, lol.
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£149 more for:Nb. Assuming that is a p80 you have pictured.
£149 more for?
Less pressure.
Same 2800w motor.
50l max per hr more.
The foam cannon which looks cheap. (Likely change to your preferred cannon of choice)
A hose reel (which is pointless if like most you will change for a 15-20m hose)
Oh and a 20 year warranty that is subject to paying for a service minimum every 5 years lol.
Ps how much is a 5 year service?
Where can service an AVA in Ni?
10 year warranty out of the box
50 bar less pressure which I don’t think you’ll notice. I haven’t in testing.
Foam cannon is actually very impressive. But the beauty is if you’ve a karcher fitting you can use your one of choice
The hose reel comes loaded with a 10metre stainless steel braided hose. Not the wee plastic one which comes with karchers
The 5 year service will cost a whole £45 and only needs to be done after 10 years on the P60 & P80 models
Now I know in the grand scheme of things £45 for a few o rings and a service which you can do yourself if you’re competent (or else I can do it…. I might want to make £5 profit on it but hopefully that wouldn’t be frowned upon
But hey. It’s your money. That’s why I’ve offered a try before you buy to customers and they’ve proven to be popular - I’ve sold a few of each machine and everyone has been very impressed with them
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I think we should all know by know that "figures and stats" can be misleading and inaccurate in the real world.
Having held the Lance from one of the Ava machines I'll say one thing, it's night and day in quality feel compared with any karcher I've ever used and I've been through 3 now.
Zero resistant trigger is unbelievable and will no doubt make washing less of a hassle in the long run. Will definitely be buying myself one in the near future.
Having held the Lance from one of the Ava machines I'll say one thing, it's night and day in quality feel compared with any karcher I've ever used and I've been through 3 now.
Zero resistant trigger is unbelievable and will no doubt make washing less of a hassle in the long run. Will definitely be buying myself one in the near future.
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Same here, even the P40 is easily as good as my K4 I use at home. It uses far less water, hence the "lower" flow rate, which matters in England where water is paid for. But the lance and the spray pattern is still better. It's quieter too.
The hose is nothing like the tiny stiff one that comes on the K4. Nor anything like the stiff horrible Kärscher extension hose. Which is a must on the K4 but not needed even on the P40.
And that's just the wee tiny P40.
And running it using a water butt and a siphon.
Nothing wrong with the K4, it does the job absolutely fine. But when it gives up, I'm on my second one already, I'll look at something else.
The hose is nothing like the tiny stiff one that comes on the K4. Nor anything like the stiff horrible Kärscher extension hose. Which is a must on the K4 but not needed even on the P40.
And that's just the wee tiny P40.
And running it using a water butt and a siphon.
Nothing wrong with the K4, it does the job absolutely fine. But when it gives up, I'm on my second one already, I'll look at something else.
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And for that point the K7 - it’s a brilliant machine, but comparing a k7 compact to the AVA P80 or a kranzle is apples and oranges.
I love AVA’s tag line
“the new experience… made to last”
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Ross, I'm under no disillusion that the Karcher K series range are not in the same league as premium machines.
I was simply pointing out that you were incorrect with your initial comment of Ava being more powerful and cheaper.
Which is why I posted the 3 specs above.
The Ava machines may well be better made and have a longer warranty (subject to servicing), but they are not cheaper and more powerful than the K7 Compact I noted.
I'm not having a dig at Ava.
I was just listing the figures and prices to help people make an informed decision.
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That's all fair enough, nothing wrong at all with pointing that out.
I honestly don't know how the prices work out. If you're happy with standard Kärscher extension hoses, etc., which you'll need, then maybe it still works out a little cheaper after adding that. I don't know, haven't checked.
But then you're not comparing the same things. The hoses and attachments in the Ava kits are just in a different league, and you get long hoses as part of the product.
Whether that quality is important is obviously a personal choice.
Marketing numbers don't tell the whole story either. Just depends what you mean by "more powerful" - more actual cleaning power, or just throwing more water out.
I actually think the Ava P40 does near as damn it a good job as my K4. In terms of how the dirt flies off despite using far less water. The bigger ones would surely be in a different league but I haven't tried one of them.
Again, whether that's important is a personal choice.
Only way to settle it is to try one
Ross will let you do that, can't say fairer than that.
I honestly don't know how the prices work out. If you're happy with standard Kärscher extension hoses, etc., which you'll need, then maybe it still works out a little cheaper after adding that. I don't know, haven't checked.
But then you're not comparing the same things. The hoses and attachments in the Ava kits are just in a different league, and you get long hoses as part of the product.
Whether that quality is important is obviously a personal choice.
Marketing numbers don't tell the whole story either. Just depends what you mean by "more powerful" - more actual cleaning power, or just throwing more water out.
I actually think the Ava P40 does near as damn it a good job as my K4. In terms of how the dirt flies off despite using far less water. The bigger ones would surely be in a different league but I haven't tried one of them.
Again, whether that's important is a personal choice.
Only way to settle it is to try one
Ross will let you do that, can't say fairer than that.