Lanes/Targa Rallies

[cauld1]

Cant speak from personal experience as I dont abs but one of the guys had it in his Yaris and found it braked very well, too well compared what he was expecting so was slowing down earlier than he wanted. Possibly something you could get used to though!

 

[DavyC]

Our ABS hasnt worked since I got the car so cant comment either.

Also, checked my own wheel alignment last night again and corrected figures in previous post.

 

[Dwd]

I depends on then car but in general ABS can be quite dangerous on loose surfaces. Its not a good feeling having the brake pedal vibrate while you get little or no brake response. Depends on your pace/experience though I suppose, but I wouldn't advise trying it.

 

[KevM]

It can actually feel really like complete brake failure on a loose surface! I would be doing away with the ABS function for the lanes!

 

[OZ10]

Cant speak from personal experience as I dont abs but one of the guys had it in his Yaris and found it braked very well, too well compared what he was expecting so was slowing down earlier than he wanted. Possibly something you could get used to though!

Conor can you get me any more info on the Yaris setup or whos was it? We now have Rogers Yaris that he used the last few events. We are looking to set it up for the lanes.

 

[OZ10]

And another question i have. Have any of you's tried doing an event with ABS switched on? Does it ever help or is it not a good idea?

IMO far to dangerous to have ABS on during lanes. Alot of the surfaces can be loose or mud so you want your brakes to be working not the pedal kicking back at you

 

[cauld1]

@earney it was Rogers Yaris indeed. As far as I know he did nothing to it lanes prep wise, besides check fluids etc.

 

[OZ10]

@earney it was Rogers Yaris indeed. As far as I know he did nothing to it lanes prep wise, besides check fluids etc.

yeah i think the abs is still on it so we need to disable it. New suspension arrived the other day so hopefully a but lower and stiffer. Cars a flyer. Maybe looking into getting another set of calipers fitted but apparently handbrake isnt too bad as it is. Comes to autotests tho it may not be as good as we hope for

 

[cauld1]

yeah i think the abs is still on it so we need to disable it. New suspension arrived the other day so hopefully a but lower and stiffer. Cars a flyer. Maybe looking into getting another set of calipers fitted but apparently handbrake isnt too bad as it is. Comes to autotests tho it may not be as good as we hope for

Happy days, aye I'd heard it was a good going wee car. As someone competing in an MX5 it will be nice to see something different out!

 

[peespeed]

Seeded entry list for the UAC NTBD Rally


No Driver Co-Driver Make Model Class
1 David Crothers Barbara Kane Mazda MX5 Class 2
2 Eric Patterson Raymond Donaldson Mazda MX5 Class 2
3 Eamonn Byrne Anthony Preston Toyota Starlet Class 1
4 Frank Lenehan Joanna Lenehan Toyota Starlet Class 1
5 Christopher Evans Mark FitzSimon Mazda MX5 Class 2
6 Eddie Peterson Daire Maguire Toyota Starlet Class 1
7 Daniel Byrne Kevin Fagan Peugot 106 Class 1
8 Damien Doran James Doran Toyota Starlet Class 1
9 John O'Reilly Mark Fitsimmons Mazda MX5 Class 2
10 Allan Harryman Suz Graham Mazda MX5 Class 2
11 Mark Woodside Andy Blair Mazda MX5 Class 2
12 Tim Woodside Ben Woodside Mazda MX5 Class 2
13 Robert Woodside (Snr) David Allen Ford Escort Class 1
14 Paul Woodside Gary Woodside Nissan Micra WRC Class 3
15 David Mutch Jonny Hart Mazda MX5 RS Class 2
16 Bryan Mutch Ken McEntee Mazda MX5 Class 2
17 Owen Murray Judy Lambert Toyota Starlet Class 1
18 David Greer Sandra Greer Mazda MX5 Class 4
19 Stuart Biggerstaff Jonathan MacDonald Ford Focus Class 3
20 Steven Ferguson Milton McWilliams Peugeot 106 gti Class 1
21 Norman Ferguson Brendan Mooney Peugeot 106 gti Class 1
22 Stephen Whitford Lucy Whitford Mazda MX5 Class 2
23 David Hanna Lee McCraken Renault Clio Sport Class 3
24 Michael Workman Ashley Lamont Ford Escort Class 2
25 Sam Lyle Wesley Lyle Vauxhall Nova Class 3
26 Matthew Mason Peter Scott Nissan Micra WRC Class 1
27 Alex Scott Jody Patterson Nissan Micra WRC Class 3
28 Steven Cromie Keilin Webb Mazda MX5 Class 4
29 Chris Henry Mickey Flynn Mazda MX5 Class 4
30 Gilmore Magee Mervyn Gregg Mazda MX5 Class 2
31 Ted Gaffney Karen Gaffney Toyota Starlet Class 1
32 Patrick Corcoran Joe Corcoran Toyota Starlet Class 1
33 Gary Egan Billy White Toyota Starlet Class 1
34 Paul Williamson Colin Stanford Mazda MX5 Class 2
35 Conor Auld Clifford Auld Mazda MX5 Class 4
36 Roger Fynn Toby Fynn Mazda MX5 Class 2
37 Maurice Eakin Conn Williamson Peugot 106 Rallye Class 1
38 Wallace McKee Ben McKee Mazda MX5 Class 2
39 Damien Mooney Tony Anderson Citroen Saxo Class 1
40 Rodney McCready Shiralee McCready Mazda MX5 Class 2
41 Fintan McGrady Cormac McGrady Mazda MX5 Class 2
42 Neil Fletcher Laura Fletcher Ford Escort Mexico Class 2
43 Richard McCartney Graham Thompson BMW 318ti Compact Class 2
44 Brendan Mullan Martin McBride Toyota Starlet Class 1
45 James McMurray Christopher McMurray Mazda MX5 Class 2
46 Ron Mullen Malcolm McQueen Nissan Sunny Class 1
47 John Henderson Jonathan Henderson Nissan Micra WRC Class 1
48 Jim Allen Marshal Kennedy Renault Clio Class 3
49 Stan Harper Daniel Harper Nissan Micra WRC Class 3
50 Brendan O'Dwyer Mark Pembroke Mazda 626 GT Coupe Class 3
51 Brian Mclean Julian Finlay Vauxhall Corsa Class 3
52 Chris Johnston Hannah Johnston Peugeot 106 Class 3
53 Brian Poots Jordan Poots Suzuki Ignis GA Class 3
54 Gary Healey Anthony Lyle Peugot 206 GTI Class 3
55 Kyle Gibson Michael Dawson Nissan Micra WRC Class 3
56 Chris Nelson Mark Hegarty Mazda MX5 Class 4
57 Stuart Annesley Steven Knowles Mazda MX5 Class 4
58 Darwyn Young Stephen Griffiths Ford Puma Class 3
59 Michael Duke Claudette Hollywood Mazda MX5 Class 4
60 Darren Fleck Gary Wilson BMW 318ti Class 4
61 Liam Regan David McElroy Ford Escort MK2 Class 4
62 Robert Johnston Morgan Johnston Rover 25 Class 3
63 Fearghus Quinn Stephen O'Donnell Volvo S40 Class 3
64 Donald Urquhart Eilidh Urquhart Land Rover Series 3 Class 4
65 Craig Bennett Peter Bennett Citroen C1 Class 3
66 Peter Caldwell David Lilburn Citroen Saxo Class 3
67 Mike Henderson John Henderson Toyota Starlet SR Class 3
68 Mark Smyth Craig Smyth Citroen Saxo Class 3
69 Robert Allingham Thomas Maxwell VW Golf Class 3
70 Gordon McCready Christopher Steenson Toyota Celica Class 3

101 Peter Dornan Gareth Evans Peugot 206 Class 3
102 Johnny Montgomery Ross Currie Ford Puma Class 3
103 Craig Taylor Zoe Taylor Toyota Starlet Class 3
104 Mark O'Donnell Michael O'Donnell Ford Ka Class 3
105 Jordan Minta Craig Graham Nissan Micra WRC Class 3
106 Kevin Daly Mark Maxwell Hyundai Accent Class 3
107 Gareth Badger Alan Badger Citroen Saxo Class 3
108 Michael Salt Richard Allen Ford Fiesta Class 3
109 Phillip McCrea Mark Stewart Madza MX5 Class 4
110 Johnathan Dingley Nathan Colvin Ford Puma Class 3
111 Craig McCullough William Kirkpatrick Peugeot 205 Class 3
112 Andrew Harkness Stephen Ferguson Citroen Saxo Class 3
113 Sam Coulter Andrew Black Ford Ka Class 3
114 Mark Faulkner Gillian Haydon Mazda MX5 Class 2
115 Phil Cherry George Tinsley Mazda MX5 Class 2
116 John Kelly James Kelly MG Midget Class 2
117 Simon Brien Jack Brien Mazda MX5 Class 2
118 Mark Brien Anna Brien MG Midget Class 2
119 Andy Johnson George Johnson Vauxhall HS Class 1
120 Angus Johnson John Ward Austin Healy Sprite Class 4
121 Michael Reid Erin Reid MG Midget Class 2
122 Mark Lemon Katie Lemon MG Midget Class 4
123 Jay Colville TBA MG Midget Class 2
124 Arthur McMullan Adam McMullan Ford Anglia Class 2
125 Tony Mc Laughlin Tony Crilly BMW 318 Class 2
126 Will Thompson Mark Francis Mazda MX5 Class 2
127 Harry McAllister William McAllister Mazda MX5 Class 2
128 Godfrey Donaldson Andrew Franklin Mazda MX5 Class 2
129 Michael Rice Conall Rice Toyota MR2 Class 4
130 Kevin McNamee Johnny McNamee Mazda MX5 Class 4
131 Peter Faulkner Derek Smyth Mazda MX5 Class 4
132 Joseph Toni Mullan James Guy Mullan Mazda MX5 Class 4
133 Karl Neely James McKeefry Mazda MX5 Class 4
134 Mark Bradley John McGuickan Mazda MX5 Class 4
135 Anthony McGuckin Mark McCrystal Madza MX5 Class 4
136 Bill Arbuthnot Jason McGuickan Mazda MX5 Class 4
137 Niall McKenna Kathryn Shiels Mazda Eunos Class 4
138 Leslie Hawe Gareth Hawe Mazda MX5 Class 4
139 Chris Arthur Alastair Robinson Mazda MX5 Class 4
140 Andrew Blair Bill Blair Mazda MX5 Class 4
141 Craig Ewing Marc Cameron Nissan Micra WRC Class 3
142 Timothy Luke Dickson Kyle Fletcher Vauxhall Astra Class 3
143 Gareth Brewster John O'Neill Ford Fiesta Class 3
144 Jonny McCarthy Niall McLorn Mazda MX5 Class 4
145 Robert Robinson Zara Robinson Mazda MX5 Class 4
146 Ryan Young Jack Young Mazda MX5 Class 4
147 Peter Dowds Philip Young Mazda MX5 Class 4
148 Scott McBurney TBA Mazda MX5 Class 4
149 Adrian Patterson Paul Gray Mazda MX5 Class 4
150 Paul Mooney Lorraine McMorrow Vauxhall Nova Class 3
151 Berry McGaffin Norma Glover Mazda MX5 Class 4
152 John Convery Brendan Convery Volkswagen Polo Class 3
153 Stuart Montgomery Neil Walker Mazda MX5 Class 4
154 David Crossen Alan Crossen Nissan Micra WRC Class 3
155 Barry Elmore Alastair Green Mazda MX5 Class 4
156 Marcus Dickson Lisa McVeagh Toyota Corolla Class 3
157 Fergus Mallon Chris Mallon MG ZR Class 3
158 Alan Jardine Isaac Busby Ford Escort Sport Class 4
159 Breige Church Mia Church Mazda MX5 Class 4
160 Noel Vallely Neill Vallely Toyota Corolla Class 4
161 Richard Pender Mark McLoughlin MG ZR Class 3
162 Phillip Hogg Ian Pollock Honda Civic Type R Class 3
163 Anthony Quinn Leah Mooney Ford Puma Class 3
164 Darren Killen Patrick McCartan Toyota Starlet Class 3
165 Alan Annesley Richard Sloan Vauxhall Tigra Class 3
166 Mark McBurney Rodney Lamont BMW 318 Class 4
167 Michael O'Hara David O'Hara Nissan Micra WRC Class 3
168 Conor O'Boyle Lee Magill BMW 318i Class 4
169 Mervyn Williamson Marcus Morrow VW Beetle Class 3
170 Timothy Crean Robert Crean Mazda MX5 Class 4

 

[cauld1]

Can't wait, going by the facebook page the tests will be brilliant as usual!
Now just to get this bm off the ramp and get the mx5 ready and dried out....

 

[FM155]

Yup looking forward to it, the MG is in the garage now with a small (!) list of jobs to sort...

And, nice to see @DavyC seeded #1, hope everyone has a good run out.

 

[DavyC]

..Aye, no pressure eh!.. That's seeded mainly based on last years INTBDR results when we came 2nd, so ignoring our few off days during the year, and with no Robert Jnr, then looks like we're 1st off the ramp (along with car 100).

Looking forward to the tests too, tho did I read / hear there's about 16 tests done twice?... that's a lot of notes to do on the morning, best get there sharpish!.. The organisers will have thier work cut out for them too trying keep things running smooth. Fair play to them if they pull it off. I remember the car park was a tad chaotic when cars started to get ready for the off.

I think our wagon is good to go, tho if I had this xmas malarkie past, then I'd chill out on boxing day and have another nosey under it... maybe give the diff guard it's routine sledging.

 

[Liam Shaw]

Aww i wish i was going too. Too much work to be done and no where near enough funds. I'll be there for a while anyway to watch and have a bottle of champagne to pick up from a fb competition. Roll on Springfling!

 

[cauld1]

To be fair all I've to do is dry the seats out (because leaks), an oil service, fix the exhaust and check over the brakes. Handier last years hungover xmas day rebuilding.

They did manage well last year getting it to go smoothly, though the carpark could be fun to line up in!

 

[OZ10]

Hopefully they get to run all 16 twice. 140 cars through each will cut up pretty bad if it's loose.

 

[peespeed]

As long as the weather stays calm on the day everything should run smoothly, I know Ronnie Mitchell and his crew have been out a number of times checking the schedule and tweaking it here and there to make sure it works. The snow last year kinda put a spanner in the works and delayed a few tests

 

[FM155]

Aye the snow was a bit of a bugger alright but still ran OK in the end. There have been a few tests dropped from rallies throughout the year for weather reasons seeing as the first half of the year was as wet as buggery. We were running winters last year and they were useful on the road sections to some of the tests but completely useless on the tests themselves lol. Prep day tomorrow.

 

[peespeed]

Final instructions for Monday

http://www.ulsterautomobileclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/2015-Final-Instructions.pdf

Take note that tow cars & trailers are not to be parked at The Tannery

 

[DavyC]

..so, a wee bit of last minute subframe welding today, but we're good to go!.. Good luck fellow RMS'ers!..
See you's in the morning!

 

[peespeed]

@DavyC is planning on getting an exclusion order to keep me away from tests

 

[cauld1]

Well that was an excellent event. Barring a bit of waiting around at the start and first test I thought it went smoothly. That superdrive test was excellent too, actually all the tests were very good.

Something seems to be quite broken in the back of the mx5 now, time for a tear down!

 

[FM155]

It was an excellent event and some great tests. I was somewhat lacking in concentration and didn't wake up till halfway round the rally and made a few mistakes etc. We were 32 secs quicker through Down Royal the second time round and lost another 9 or 10 seconds on a few other tests in the first loop due to lack of attention on both our parts. By the time we were into the second loop we were really enjoying ourselves and giving it a proper go. We were 19 secs quicker around Laws yard the second time around. Ah well, we had a bit of serious craic and that's what counts.

 

[DavyC]

@DavyC is planning on getting an exclusion order to keep me away from tests

We're going to have to do something because it's getting beyond rediculous!!.. It's just too much of a coincidence.. even when I spot the camera from the start line, there's still a balls up on the way! And it's not just you Peter. At dundrod I somehow missed a loud and clear "hard right davy!!" and went to go past a bright orange arrow!... reversed back, turned in right, and there's @earney standing with a big lens!!.. I dont know why I overshot the finish on a later test but I'm assuming there was a camera near by somewhere.. couldnt possibly have been a lack of talent on my part! On the plus side tho, there's some cracking photos from the both you.

Peespeed Photography : Home Page & @earney 's Home | StopAstride.com for any interested passers by reading this.

We pretty much enjoyed all the tests too. Again, it was really hard to judge a lot of the surfaces... thought I was for taking the front off one of Stoneyford's lorries on the 1st pass through. The event claimed a few victims, so we're glad to have made it back intact.

We tried to stay for the prize giving, but had to cry off about 7pm... I guess a long wait was to be expected with 140 sets of times to plug into an excel, then all the queried times etc etc etc, but we were wrecked, and I had a clutchless Mondeo to nurse home in the p1shing rain, but that's a whole other story.

 

[big_pete]

Soooo... After selling the 205 my Bro in Law had talked me into going halfers and sharing a car lol

£500 max to spend what would you buy lol? I'm thinking of a corsa or something FWD as he has no RWD experience. We were planning on sharing the car event about one he drives the other I drive?