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It's this picture that always blows my mind....double deck cutting through belfast out to the m1....and it's the wrong side of the embankment to now
How many lorries to cripple a city?
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It's this picture that always blows my mind....double deck cutting through belfast out to the m1....and it's the wrong side of the embankment to now
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It's this picture that always blows my mind....double deck cutting through belfast out to the m1....and it's the wrong side of the embankment to now
Almost makes you feel sad how backwards we can be.
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Car driver was in lane, bin lorry was moving lane......minor injuries, both single occupied...
Bin lorry was fully laden, 24 tonnes hence the heavy recovery, cranes and air lift
Total carnage traffic wise, incident occurred at 1500hrs on a Friday, was cleared at 1945..... Then straight to the SSE as folk were doing the usual heading to the Corrs concert and not following signage...... Buts that's another traffic SNAFU
Bin lorry was fully laden, 24 tonnes hence the heavy recovery, cranes and air lift
Total carnage traffic wise, incident occurred at 1500hrs on a Friday, was cleared at 1945..... Then straight to the SSE as folk were doing the usual heading to the Corrs concert and not following signage...... Buts that's another traffic SNAFU
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I wouldn't say backwards but I would say sad solely because of how it could of been....circa 40 years ago!
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Fair do's it looked like a mare when I passed plus rubber neckers on way out was close to causing mayhem and that was about 4pm
SNAFU nows there's an old skool belfast shop!! Anybody got any Pablo gargano or Darryl tapes, tdk90s!
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Interesting to see how the mindset was back in the day that would have the idea of a motorway to Dublin ditched.
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To be fair they were just plans. There is nothing to say they actually would have happened.
Road building always seems to be one step behind demand and I'd say that's true across the UK not just NI. Look at some of the crazy jams in England when a lorry topples in the wrong place.
It's hard to see any solution for Belfast that would elimate these kind of problems (bar maybe driver education). The real solution may be in car software where collisions are detected and avoided automatically. That might help more than new roads
Even adding a link from westlink to m2 might not make too much difference as I usually join at yorkgate and the m2 is chocca along the shore and up the hill. All a link will do is feed that more.
I think the push will be more and more to get people out of their cars and into public transport (proper style not just more buses).
Road building always seems to be one step behind demand and I'd say that's true across the UK not just NI. Look at some of the crazy jams in England when a lorry topples in the wrong place.
It's hard to see any solution for Belfast that would elimate these kind of problems (bar maybe driver education). The real solution may be in car software where collisions are detected and avoided automatically. That might help more than new roads
Even adding a link from westlink to m2 might not make too much difference as I usually join at yorkgate and the m2 is chocca along the shore and up the hill. All a link will do is feed that more.
I think the push will be more and more to get people out of their cars and into public transport (proper style not just more buses).
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Never work hard ..work smart because it looks like your working hard...Simples.
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Im not saying it wasn't the actual truck that caused this balls up ,Of course it was but to think the driver just fancied chucking his rig over to see the outcome !!!
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To be fair they were just plans. There is nothing to say they actually would have happened.
Road building always seems to be one step behind demand and I'd say that's true across the UK not just NI. Look at some of the crazy jams in England when a lorry topples in the wrong place.
It's hard to see any solution for Belfast that would elimate these kind of problems (bar maybe driver education). The real solution may be in car software where collisions are detected and avoided automatically. That might help more than new roads
Even adding a link from westlink to m2 might not make too much difference as I usually join at yorkgate and the m2 is chocca along the shore and up the hill. All a link will do is feed that more.
I think the push will be more and more to get people out of their cars and into public transport (proper style not just more buses).
You just need to look at the amount of new motorways and roads that were/are being built in the Republic compared to NI, and Uk too
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They are fantastic alright but its a case of catchup to the UK i think. Plus tolls everywhere. And any irish city ive been in is brutal for traffic.
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The Republic got a fortune in EU money before the bubble burst, I remember when all their roads were like a day at Todds Leap. A trip to Dublin via Castlebellingham took Fking hours if someone broke down in the town.
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They recently did the a2 to carrick which was definately needed and the A8 to Larne, which is probably 20 years too late as Most ferry traffic goes through Belfast now, although it does mean you can get away from the place faster now.
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Well maybe it was the fairys.
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Someone always brings Religon into it.
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To be fair they were just plans. There is nothing to say they actually would have happened.
Road building always seems to be one step behind demand and I'd say that's true across the UK not just NI. Look at some of the crazy jams in England when a lorry topples in the wrong place.
It's hard to see any solution for Belfast that would elimate these kind of problems (bar maybe driver education). The real solution may be in car software where collisions are detected and avoided automatically. That might help more than new roads
Even adding a link from westlink to m2 might not make too much difference as I usually join at yorkgate and the m2 is chocca along the shore and up the hill. All a link will do is feed that more.
I think the push will be more and more to get people out of their cars and into public transport (proper style not just more buses).
Biggest problems with the M2 after Belfast are people coming on at Fortwilliam/Duncrue, then cutting across to the M5, that's just a bad design with no real simple solution.
Then not helped by people trying to fire down the M5 and cut back into the M2 at the last minute. It's a pity they couldnt put a permanent divider in there between M2 and M5 lanes but then that would block people who legitimately need to get from Fortwilliam to the M5.
That said, I can't imagine most of the time it isnt just as handy to go along the Shore Rd instead of trying to get to the M5.
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More amusingly, I believe they got planning permission for the university but didn't for the multistory car park to go with it.
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Typical Belfast really. Politicians are happy to move everything into the city.. Jobs, investment, now the UuJ but once again they neglect to improve the infrastructure sufficiently to handle the extra traffic it brings. They couldn't even bring themselves to have a John Lewis store at Sprucefield, it was either Belfast or nowhere!
I've commuted into Belfast for work for the last 5 years and it has got worse year after year.
I don't mind centralisation but if politcians are going do to it, make sure the infrastructure is efficient otherswise it makes misery for everyone.
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surely our road system is complete load of yite for the simple fact that our roads/motorists cant seem to handle an accident on the m2.
IMO it was a very mild accident, everyone just go down the shore road and join the m2 via fort william, past the lorry.
but no, the m2 being closed caused the whole of Belfast to be ****ed.
all north Belfast was ****, I think west, south and east was bad to.
IMO it was a very mild accident, everyone just go down the shore road and join the m2 via fort william, past the lorry.
but no, the m2 being closed caused the whole of Belfast to be ****ed.
all north Belfast was ****, I think west, south and east was bad to.
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if I owned a multistory car park in Belfast city centre. of course I'll be whispering in the ears of the planning permissions people to tell uuj to go **** themselves.
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If you think 5 lanes of 70mph traffic can go up one lane of already busy 30mph traffic with traffic lights, right turners etc you're mental.
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