F1 2014 : All Chat Here

[weeloaney]

I am a Lewis fan, but it must be horrible to be standing on the podium and have the crowd "Booo" like they did Nico

 

[McKay]

Nico screwed up big time, such an amateur mistake.
Feel sorry for Lewis, he needs a fair win against Nico to get the title scrap back on track.
Ricardo beats Vettle yet again, happy days.

 

[mrloaf]

Hearing Lewis crying on the team radio that he didn't want to play anymore made my afternoon, I don't think it was intentional, I mean who would intentionally clip their front wing into a rival and potentially ruin their own race when the stakes are so high?

unfortunate for hamilton but meh, that's motorsport.

Great result for Ricardo, top drive

 

[Marc.W]

Hearing Lewis crying on the team radio that he didn't want to play anymore made my afternoon, I don't think it was intentional, I mean who would intentionally clip their front wing into a rival and potentially ruin their own race when the stakes are so high?

unfortunate for hamilton but meh, that's motorsport.

Great result for Ricardo, top drive

Could be bull but...

 

[weeloaney]

Wouldn't be the first time there's been a deliberate hit

 

[DC.]

Could be bull but...

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Not bull at all.

Lewis wanted to retire today for the simple reason that his car was lacking so much downforce that he was struggling to catch those in-front of him never mind challenge for points.

Why bother trundle round & collect no points when he could save the milage on all the parts?

 

[DC.]

Wonder what 'point' Nico was trying to prove by hitting Lewis on purpose?

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/28921431

 

[svensktoppen]

Pretty uneventful, apart from Nico deciding to do a Prost/Schumacher on Lewis, taking him out rather than racing him.

Awesome by Ric! Go Aus, bye bye Vettel

Great drive by Bottas too, love to see Williams doing well and Bottas seems to be a great guy. Vettel and Raikkonen did well too in fairness.

Harsh penalty for Alonso, but hey, rules are rules. Put up a decent fight.

 

[svensktoppen]

Hearing Lewis crying on the team radio that he didn't want to play anymore made my afternoon, I don't think it was intentional, I mean who would intentionally clip their front wing into a rival and potentially ruin their own race when the stakes are so high?

Lewis wanted to stop because he was so far behind by the time he got out of the pit, there was no point staying out. A bit moany, maybe, but really no point circulating without any hope of even getting into points. And easy to see how he just wanted to get out of the car and bash something, hard (preferably Nico's head).

I know Merc said they were hoping for a safety car, but on a dry day that was never really going to happen.

To be honest, hard to think it was deliberate by Nico, not really in character. But he did have everything to win from taking Lewis out, and nothing to loose. Not racing anybody else but Lewis, everyone else is so far behind. Getting another 15-25 points on Lewis could make all the difference. Worst case, if they both went off, it would be status quo. Nothing to loose for Nico, but everything to win.

This is what Prost and Schumacher used to do back in the bad old days. But this is 2014. If Nico really did cause a crash deliberately, then that is really bad for everyone.

Actually surprised there was no investigation. The driver telemetry should show pretty clearly who did what.

 

[svensktoppen]

Just had a read of that BBC article linked above. It actually says Mercedes confirm Lewis' version of that "conversation".

If this is true, and Nico deliberately caused a crash to gain an advantage in the championship, then surely there has to be consequences for Nico... If nothing else, by Merc... But FIA should look into it too...

 

[Reno_LV]

Boos for Nico all day at every corner lol!

 

[DC.]

It's one thing hitting your teammate but quite another admitting you did it on purpose.

 

[McKay]

It still think it was just a racing incident. There was more chance of Nico loosing his wing then Lewis getting a puncture.
Take Alonso loosing a lump of his front wing against Vettles rear tyre on the last lap for instance, pure racing incident but no punture for vettle and new wing for Alonso if it wasn't the last lap.
So what's the difference between the two? Think this crap of Nico doing it on purpose is just a load of hype!!!

 

[svensktoppen]

Think this crap of Nico doing it on purpose is just a load of hype!!!

I thought the same, but he actually said himself in the Merc driver briefing afterwards that he did it on purpose "to prove a point".

Mercedes have confirmed this version as well as being correct.

It also happened on the first lap, not when fighting for position towards the end. And the whole thing was eminently avoidable.

And, of course, it massively helped Nico in the championship. Sure, he could not have been sure the outcome would have been what it was, but he could only benefit from trying to take Lewis out. Nothing to lose for Nico.

That makes it very different from a "racing incident".

This is what Prost/Schumacher would have done without hesitation. Thought we were past this these days, the FIA came down pretty hard on Schumacher when he tried this sort of thing in the early days of his come-back. Guess everyone thought Nico is a nice guy and would never do something unsporting on purpose.

Guess we were all wrong.

Maybe time to have a look at that Monaco incident again as well, Nico parking up his car on track and disrupting Lewis' qualifying.

 

[weeloaney]

Take Alonso loosing a lump of his front wing against Vettles rear tyre on the last lap for instance, pure racing incident but no punture for vettle and new wing for Alonso if it wasn't the last lap.
So what's the difference between the two? Think this crap of Nico doing it on purpose is just a load of hype!!!

Alonso hit vettels with the front edge of the wing on the flat back/face of vettel tyre. Which is always less likely to puncture than rosberg catching the edge of his wing on Hamiltons side wall.

 

[pablo]

It smacked of deliberate while watching it.

Nico should be sacked for that. I'll bet he done the runoff on Monaco deliberately too.

 

[DC.]

LOL if Mercedes sacked Nico & hired the fastest German on the grid… Nico Hulkenberg!

Monza will be brilliant.

Another fine drive by Valtteri Bottas today, my driver of the season so far. Set for big things.

 

[svensktoppen]

Come on @coops! Bottas is great, and love to see Williams up there, but surely Ricciardo has to get the "driver of the season" accolade, taking a limp RB to the top spot several times and rubbing Vettel's face in horse manure in the process

Actually, the last point alone should be enough

 

[svensktoppen]

Could see Bottas in a Honda powered McLaren though!

Him and Magnusen would be a great pairing

 

[svensktoppen]

Or replacing Nico at Merc

 

[DC.]

There's just something about Bottas & the way he drives. Hasn't been a peep out of him in all his time at Williams considering the amount of times he has been asked to let someone else drive in FP1 but mostly it's because he's a Finn.

We all love the Flying Finn's

I think McLaren are trying to get a big name driver to lead next year, Alonso or Vettel probably.

 

[svensktoppen]

Well, Button will be out from McL for sure

They are clearly putting everything into next year's car with Honda, will be really interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[Shaun]

This could be Buttons last season in F1

 

[McKay]

 

[Reno_LV]

Well done Daniel. I didn't like Nico before and now I hate him even more! It was nice to hear people cheering for Vettel and Lewis again! Will write about my experience and share some photos once I am back! P.s. @Marc.W I
got you the red bull thsirt as requested