Whats your favourite sleeper?
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Those were the days Jim.
Wheelybins redtop Nova, Coburn's Uno Turbo and Nigel with the 205 GTI with 405 Mi 16v engine.
Sprucefield to Hillborough roundabout and back
Cheers
this engine...
in this car...
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/3/...e-Viper-Engine-in-a-1930-Rolls-Royce-7719439/
in this car...
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/3/...e-Viper-Engine-in-a-1930-Rolls-Royce-7719439/
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Ive always enjoyed the 'speak quietly, but carry a large stick approach', currently in terrys former 3mps, now with added roofracks, previously owned a ph1 172 clio which was a pretty low key kind of car too. A good friend of mine has a legacy spec b saloon, you need to know cars to even realise its a subaru never mind the fact its a capable sports saloon.
Our family shares a straight diesel berlingo so id love the idea of a vts xzara in one,that would be great. Kind of an express van.
I once followed what looked like a base spec chevette up the a8m, It rapidly drove away from me, Turned out it had a 2l turbo to go with the light green paint and velure seats.
Our family shares a straight diesel berlingo so id love the idea of a vts xzara in one,that would be great. Kind of an express van.
I once followed what looked like a base spec chevette up the a8m, It rapidly drove away from me, Turned out it had a 2l turbo to go with the light green paint and velure seats.
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For me it has to be some thing recognisable by everyone as a cheap slow car. I don't think an M5 or X6 etc are sleepers because most normal non car people wouldn't assume them to be slow.
2.0 Corsa would my favourite example of a sleeper.
Or any of the 2.0T leons. I raced one in the Jag out of a roundabout on the toome bypass, I got a fair surprise and it took a good bit of road to catch him
2.0 Corsa would my favourite example of a sleeper.
Or any of the 2.0T leons. I raced one in the Jag out of a roundabout on the toome bypass, I got a fair surprise and it took a good bit of road to catch him
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The wife's X6 M50d.. Have ordered the Hartge tuning program for it...
438hp and 620 torques...
You mean 620 pounds foot? Or foot pounds? Which ever you fancy, " torques" i hate that clarksonism.
An X6 M50d is about as far away from the topic as you can get this side of looking at an rs4 or ferrari f40.
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for me a sleeper is all about fwd.. maybe its because im a die hard FWD fan. but anyway this weapon by TDI north
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for me a sleeper is all about fwd.. maybe its because im a die hard FWD fan. but anyway this weapon by TDI north
As much as that looks to be an awesome wee car, I wouldn't consider it overly sleeper like due to the holes drilled in the rear bumper and the intercooler/radiator sticking out. Saying that though it probably would still shock some!
for me a sleeper is all about fwd.. maybe its because im a die hard FWD fan. but anyway this weapon by TDI north
how can anyone think a sleeper only means a front wheel drive car?
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To be fair he only said thats what it is about for him. Probably because there are more unsuspecting FWD cars out there than there are RWD.
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never forget one of my mates doing some work for my brother, turned up in one of these
chucked the keys at my brother and said take it for a spin, we cracked on block paving the driveway then his phone rang, it was one of his mates asking if it was him beasting the merc up the high st LOL, that went on the bill, animal of a car.
my own estate version -great coming back from the garden centre, hammering on as hard as you can go with the wife, a bullmastiff (not the nickname for the wife, my actual dog 'claude'), and a load of potted plants on board
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just a die hard fwd fan.. allways have been..
@karron i do own a 330hp ae86 but still a diehard fwd man
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There are plenty of modern saloons that sit okay and have wide enough rims to need no added visual clues whatsoever that they have been made awesomely quick. They are anonymous, with no reason to suspect that they could be giant-killers but the problem: they don't look especially slow. You just wouldn't suspect that they are rapid but if they were, you'd not be totally amazed.
If it's a real sleeper not only must it visually belie its performance but I'd argue that it should look ruddy slow. Anything with a hint of purposeful stance, even if it's straight from the factory isn't going to look uber-slow.
Now take a Morris Minor or Mini or Ford 105E or original Fiat 500 or Trabant, make it go like soot of a shovel and stop just as efficiently but leave it with massive arch-gap and three-and-a-half to four-inch wide factory steels with hubcaps and no one will suspect a thing, ever.
The problem is who wants to drive a car that is all horsepower but with possibly epic body roll and no treadwidth to get it to the tarmac?
If it's a real sleeper not only must it visually belie its performance but I'd argue that it should look ruddy slow. Anything with a hint of purposeful stance, even if it's straight from the factory isn't going to look uber-slow.
Now take a Morris Minor or Mini or Ford 105E or original Fiat 500 or Trabant, make it go like soot of a shovel and stop just as efficiently but leave it with massive arch-gap and three-and-a-half to four-inch wide factory steels with hubcaps and no one will suspect a thing, ever.
The problem is who wants to drive a car that is all horsepower but with possibly epic body roll and no treadwidth to get it to the tarmac?
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The problem is who wants to drive a car that is all horsepower but with possibly epic body roll and no treadwidth to get it to the tarmac?
This is 100% my problem!and it's about to get a whoooooolee lot worse!! Problem being I can't even run wheels/tyres which are particularly wide
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Holy f**k that is nuts. Every old Dexta or Major I drove got a speed wobble on at 15mph. I'd be wanting more than rear brakes for something that can go that fast.
Class though.
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@PhilM - I always wanted to make my old starlet a sleeper. I think if I was ever lucky enough to have some spare cash to do a sleeper build, I would definitely buy another starlet. Mine had the granny spec interior but I swapped it for glanza interior. Was a really nice wee car & I always knew these wee things are capable of so much more.
What is in that red one?
What is in that red one?
That has a 5efhte Putting out 400+ hp, with only a little map on it.
480 per ton
and that was at 1.6bar its now at 2bar+ but not dyno'dPhil
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